thank you for your reply. So you're saying there is no way to just totally remove the control bar or thumb bar? What about removing the buttons on the bar....the left/right up/down arrows, the +/- zoom....the four little square box thing that opens the thumbs back up. All that must be called out down in the bottom of the vtourskin.xml file. However I see what appears to be code for mobile devices etc....that's why I was hoping for some global control over all of these items someplace.
Honestly my reason for wanting to remove them is, well, I think they're rather unnecessary, potentially confusing, and unsightly. I have hotspot arrows in my tour that you can use to navigate through. So all the gack at the bottom is redundant. To me it seems like something other users would want to have easier control over which is why I'm surprised I don't find more answers in the forum threads.
thanks again for any additional help