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360gradenfotografie

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Location: Tilburg, The Netherlands

Tuesday, August 22nd 2017, 1:11pm

Gear VR - Oculus Browser / Samsung Internet

I would love to view krpano tours in the new Oculus Browser or Samsung Internet on my Gear VR. Both browsers support WebVR. krpano also does, but I'm not able to get it to work.

Check this screen recording on YouTube to see what's happening when I open a krpano tour in Oculus Browser.

Hope anyone can point out what's going wrong.

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jeromebg

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Monday, August 28th 2017, 2:16pm

same for me, any solution ?

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360boy

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Monday, August 28th 2017, 4:24pm

Hello 360gradenfotografie, strange issue, I've been following same procedure that your vid in both browsers and krpano runs like a charm. I'm using Galaxy S7 (Android 7.0) + white GearVR (Consumer edition) + Oculus Browser 3.6.5, I guess is just a matter of upgrade or in worst scenario incompatibility in some platforms.

This is the link that I've tested and works, check it out: http://360.wilmingtonandbeaches.com/vr.html

Best

Luis

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360gradenfotografie

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Monday, August 28th 2017, 4:33pm

Hi Luis,

Thank you! I tested the URL you provided and it works like it should.

I saw you're using version 1.19-pr8, while I tested with 1.19-pr12.

Klaus, any idea what's going on here?

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360boy

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Monday, August 28th 2017, 5:14pm

That's interesting 360gradenfotografie, I've just tested this private tour I'm coding in which I used pr12 specifically for VR and it works equally well (Console hidden but it's pr12, just checked again http://skynav360.com/clients/haig-point/vr.html).

Now this is odd, I just tested the WebVR link at Krpano site and indeed it struggles exactly like your video shows. I guess this is more an issue of the embedding of the krpano example at site than Oculus browser incompatibility with the viewer.

What do you think Klaus? And also, with this great new integration of Krpano in Oculus platform I was about to create a post here asking which ways could we developers have to create a stand alone app for this platforms, any possibility here yet?

Best

Luis

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360gradenfotografie

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Tuesday, August 29th 2017, 3:52pm

Quoted from "360boy"

That's interesting 360gradenfotografie, I've just tested this private tour I'm coding in which I used pr12 specifically for VR and it works equally well (Console hidden but it's pr12, just checked again http://skynav360.com/clients/haig-point/vr.html).

I did some testing. When I use webvr.js and webvr.xml of pr8, and all other krpano files of pr12, it works just like it should! Any thoughts, Klaus?

By the way, I think it won't be possible soon to create standalone apps from WebVR/krpano files. Let's hope Oculus/Samsung will create the feature to add web bookmarks to the 'desktop'.

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klaus.krpano

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Wednesday, August 30th 2017, 2:49pm

Hi,

thanks for the report - this was unfortunately a side-effect from an other 'fix'...

In the current Android Chrome versions (before version 62) the WebVR API itself is already there, but not working - and that leads to a wrong WebVR support detection. The WebVR API would be detected to be there, but it wouldn't be working and so there was no VR support all, even no 'MobileVR' support (=VR by gyro/accel tracking + manual lens distortion).

And to avoid that the native WebVR API usage was blocked for Chrome version before 62.

But this unfortunately had blocked also the GearVR Samsung browser because that's also a Chrome-based browser.

In the next release there will be a exception for the GearVR browser to allow using the WebVR API there.

Best regards,
Klaus

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GEA3D

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Thursday, August 31st 2017, 5:41am

Thank you very much Guys!
I went back to PR8 and it worked for me!

The experience in Gear VR is far better than google Cardboard.

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360gradenfotografie

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Thursday, August 31st 2017, 9:06am

Quoted from "klaus.krpano"

In the next release there will be a exception for the GearVR browser to allow using the WebVR API there.

Great, thanks! Speaking of WebVR; are there any plans to implement support for the Gear VR Controller (and/or the Daydream Controller, Oculus Remote)? To be able to activate a hotspot with a click instead of the current time out.

Quoted from "GEA3D"

The experience in Gear VR is far better than google Cardboard.

It is! Especially since the Oculus Browser came out. I've never liked the performance of the Samsung Internet Browser for Gear VR.

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klaus.krpano

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Thursday, August 31st 2017, 10:20am

Hi,

Quoted

I went back to PR8 and it worked for me!

Here a quick workaround for the current version - just insert that code anywhere in the xml:

Source code

<action name="gearvr_webvr_api_workaround" autorun="preinit" type="Javascript" devices="html5"><![CDATA[
  if (navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase().indexOf("mobile vr") >= 0)
  {
    krpano.device.chromeversion = 62;
  }
]]></action>

Quoted

Great, thanks! Speaking of WebVR; are there any plans to implement support for the Gear VR Controller (and/or the Daydream Controller, Oculus Remote)? To be able to activate a hotspot with a click instead of the current time out.

Yes.

Quoted

Quoted

The experience in Gear VR is far better than google Cardboard.

It is! Especially since the Oculus Browser came out. I've never liked the performance of the Samsung Internet Browser for Gear VR.

I agree - the GearVR Oculus Browser and the performance of it's WebVR API support is great!

Best regards,
Klaus

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eyepiz

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Thursday, October 5th 2017, 8:27pm

Daydream

Is there anyway to enter in VR mode with Chrome and a Daydream headset? I can only see the players launch page but nothing is clickable. Regular webpages work fine, but anything from the krpano viewer does not work. I tried Chrome 61 and the 62 Beta.

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GIOLETS

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Tuesday, October 10th 2017, 1:10am

I've tried your solution Klaus, and it works!
Now I can see tours into Gear Vr using Oculus Browser and they runs really much better than using Firefox or other browser.

Now I have however a big trouble because all the startup view of the scenes are impossible to set, seems that is not possible to avoid the influence of the headset direction...

i've tried all the suggested solutions like:

if(webvr.isenabled == true, webvr.resetSensor(70), set(view.hlookat,70)
or
onstart="if(webvr AND webvr.isenabled, webvr.hlookat(92) )"

but with no success.

I've to close my work in few days, so I REALLY need help... Thx

Luca

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jordi

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Tuesday, October 10th 2017, 12:05pm

should try with webvr.lookat, no webvr.hlookat

everpano.com step beyond 360

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GIOLETS

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Tuesday, October 10th 2017, 12:30pm

First of all Jordi thanks for your help, it's really appreciated (I've sent you also a private message, sorry for boring you).

I've tried as you suggested:

onstart="if(webvr AND webvr.isenabled, webvr.lookat(70,0) )"

but not work completely well.. try to explain the problem:

I have two scene (P0 and P1).
The tour start from P0, then I click to P1 (the room on the left, see the tour link attached) and I enter correctly with the webvr.lookat setting.
But if I try to exit from the room P1 to P0 (note that the headset position vary from the initial scene) and then try to re-entry in P1, the starting view is different than before.
It seems to me that the headset position of my Gear VR have influence. I've tried also to place (in wrong position I've supposed) the resetsensor command, but with no success.

Here the link to my tour:

www.areasana.com/virtualtour/tour.html

The only room that I am testing now are Hall (the starting scene P0) and Showroom (P1) on the left.

GIOLETS has attached the following file:

tour.xml (21.83 kB - 4 times downloaded - latest: Dec 8th 2018, 7:00pm)

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klaus.krpano

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Tuesday, October 10th 2017, 7:41pm

Hi,

the offset-problems with the WebVR resetsensor/lookat actions on real WebVR API browsers will be fixed in the next release (1.19-pr14).

Best regards,
Klaus

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GIOLETS

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Tuesday, October 10th 2017, 8:03pm

Great to know!
Many thanks for your reply Klaus.
There is something that I could do with my .xml in the meantime (I've to close an important work in few days and could be fantastic to show krpano tour with VR Gear)?

Many thanks to all in any case.

Luca

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klaus.krpano

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Tuesday, October 10th 2017, 8:06pm

Quoted from "GIOLETS"

There is something that I could do with my .xml in the meantime

Contact me by mail.

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GIOLETS

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Thursday, October 12th 2017, 1:12am

Thanks a lot, I've sent you the mail.

Any help will be appreciated.

Luca

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elgeekphoenix

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Friday, March 23rd 2018, 12:37am

Hi guys, thanks for all these informations.

I Have another problem related to this : My Tour made on pr14 works perfectly in VR mode/full screen on "OCULUS BROWSER" but not in "Samsung VR".

In samsung VR it works when it's on frame, but a soon as I click on the VR icon it not display it well !

Thank in advance for you contribution

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klaus.krpano

Administrator

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Friday, March 23rd 2018, 2:01pm

Hi,

in confirm - the current version of the Samsung VR browser has a bug in its WebVR support - the browsers wrongly uses the CSS style size of the webgl canvas element instead of the real canvas pixel size for it's internal rendering.

The next krpano release (1.19-pr15) will have a workaround for that.

Best regards,
Klaus

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