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kangsj2277

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Thursday, September 17th 2020, 10:40am

How do I make a sphere image a texture? If you have a tutorial, can you share it? *smile*

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Thursday, September 17th 2020, 11:55am

How do I make a sphere image a texture? If you have a tutorial, can you share it? *smile*


Did you see this in the first post?


For making such textured 3D-models the open source 3D creation software blender together with the PanoCamAdder Add-on from Michael Adam could be used. Here a tutoria.

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Thursday, September 17th 2020, 11:57am

This really looks good.
The only problem with Blender is I start it, stare at it for a minute and then shut it down again *blink*

Tuur

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Thursday, September 17th 2020, 12:29pm

Quoted

The only problem with Blender is I start it, stare at it for a minute and then shut it down again


haha.
Maybe do some tutorials..
Learning blender is sort of the best/a very good investment you could do at the moment, besides learning krpano custom coding.
These two together will be / are very powerful .. for sure when Klaus has this whole 3d stuff up and running.

Also the tutorials of Michael are ok.. but for a Blender novice.. perhaps do some starter tuts.

Tuur *thumbsup*

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Thursday, September 17th 2020, 1:07pm

krpano 1.20.8 tour.xml
<krpano version="1.20.7" title="Virtual Tour">
version="1.20.8"? ? ?
Not updated version number identification

Oops... sorry, forgot to update that number in the 'templates/xml/vtour.xml' file.
But that's just for info, it has not technical meaning.
Will upload updated packages later.

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Thursday, September 17th 2020, 1:09pm

How do I make a sphere image a texture? If you have a tutorial, can you share it?
This really looks good.
The only problem with Blender is I start it, stare at it for a minute and then shut it down again
Also the tutorials of Michael are ok.. but for a Blender novice.. perhaps do some starter tuts.

Try ALL the tutorial videos here from first to last step by step:
https://der-mische.de/category/tutorial/

And here a thread:
PanoCamAdder - Free Blender Addon

martyhr

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Thursday, September 17th 2020, 4:45pm

Can anybody explain me the difference between Blender solution and Everpano? Shortly?

Will I be able to insert to my future tours some 3d objects as they are presented on Sketchfab.com ??
Marty

jordi

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Friday, September 18th 2020, 8:39am

Impressive Klaus, congrats !

Great to see that so wanted feature working so smoothly on all devices (mobile and oculus quest) !
Next release of everpano 3D will have support for texture unwrapping, amongst other improvements so we all can enjoy this so nice feature.
everpano.com step beyond 360

panoyun

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Friday, September 18th 2020, 1:08pm

@jordi
awesome
But my software can’t be used anymore, I can’t use it after changing the computer motherboard.

jordi

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Friday, September 18th 2020, 1:57pm

@panoyun you can just go here and get the new system of license introduced in version 1.2
everpano.com step beyond 360

panoyun

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Friday, September 18th 2020, 2:58pm

@jordi
Okay, but I'll wait for you to update it and make it more convenient to use. I have no time to learn recently.

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Saturday, September 19th 2020, 9:40am

Text display bug?

At 1.20.8, the text in the hotspot child layer became smaller.
The border also disappears.

1.20.7

1.20.8


Returning to 1.20.7 will be normal. Is this a bug?

Thank you


YASUSHI KUMON

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Saturday, September 19th 2020, 11:17am

@jordi Good to see you are still alive :) Really looking forward to the updates on Everpano.

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Monday, September 21st 2020, 3:59am


At 1.20.8, the text in the hotspot child layer became smaller.
The border also disappears.

1.20.7

1.20.8


Returning to 1.20.7 will be normal. Is this a bug?

Thank you


YASUSHI KUMON
Kumon-san.


The meaning may be different.

My environment doesn't seem to matter??? *confused*


1.20.??? image




1.20.8 image




xml.

<hotspot name="text_1" type="text" capture="false"
ath="125.1155872" atv="5"
keep="false"
alpha="1.0" align="center" roundedge="5 5 5 5"
html="[p] 黄色の枠が、 [br] 当店の駐車場です [/p]" zoom="true"
onclick=""
/>
<layer name="text_1_u_rotate" zorder="19" keep="false" type="text"
x="10" y="20"
width="10" height="20" rotate="45"
html="K"
align="center"
visible="true" renderer="css3d"
onclick=""
backgroundcolor="0xffffff"
backgroundalpha="1.0"
handcursor="false"
roundedge="200 0 0 0"
capture="false"
parent="hotspot[text_1]"/>
---
くもんさん、

当方、英語の理解度が低いので、
意味が異なりました申し訳ありません。

私の環境でホットスポットにレイヤーを重ねることがありましたので、
心配になって確認いたしました。
ホットスポットの吹き出しの下部に、四角のマスを45度傾けています。
その上に、K の文字を表示させてみました。

本を読ませて頂き勉強させて頂いております。
少しでもお役に立つ内容であれば幸いです。

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Monday, September 21st 2020, 6:19am

Hi Klaus,
It is fantastic that you have made krpano render 3D models.
Any plans for panos with layered depth maps?
Best regards,
Thomas

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Monday, September 21st 2020, 8:36am

At 1.20.8, the text in the hotspot child layer became smaller.
The border also disappears.

1.20.7

1.20.8


Returning to 1.20.7 will be normal. Is this a bug?

Thank you


YASUSHI KUMON

Hi,

do you have an example for testing?
Or at least the xml code for these hotspots?

In older versions there was an bug / unexpected behavior related to hotspot sizes, so maybe that was wrong behavior was unintentionally used...

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Monday, September 21st 2020, 8:38am

Any plans for panos with layered depth maps?

Hi,

what are layered depth maps?

Best regards,
Klaus

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Monday, September 21st 2020, 4:08pm



Quoted from "Klaus"

what are layered depth maps?


A layered depth map represents the appearance of a 3d space from a range of viewpoints, rather than just one; but a limited range, for example a sphere 1m in diameter. It is a specialized 3d model good for rendering high resolution stereoscopic views with parallax shift and occlusion, as might be seen by a stationary observer turning the head and tilting the body. Perfect for VR stills and video frames. In the context of CG rendering, the "height map" is a similar idea.

This representation consists of several overlapping partial models, each with an associated texture. Each part covers a restricted range of depths. In VR the layers will be spherical shells. The textures have alpha channels, so a view from any point in the feasible range can be rendered simply by shifting the models and alpha blending the projected textures. In principle, a simple generalization of single-depthmap, single-texture process you have already implemented.

This idea was developed 20 years ago by the Szeliski group (https://www.colinzheng.com/wp-content/da…/ldp_cvpr07.pdf ) but not much used outside CG (http://frederikaalund.com/wp-content/upl…-Depth-Maps.pdf ) until recent progress made it feasible to create layered representations from photos. Now this is quickly becoming the preferred format for displaying 'lightfield' and '6-dof'images (https://augmentedperception.github.io/deepviewvideo/ ) (http://visual.cs.brown.edu/projects/matryodshkawebpage/ ). Several other groups have published work targeting layered depth maps. At the moment each group has a different way of packaging layered views, but clearly this can be done simply by combining existing formats and software.

It turns out that 5 or 6 layers is enough, because layers mainly encode visibility, the actual depths being attached to the model vertices. Where there is continuous depth, alpha blending gives good visual continuity because in those places the depth difference between adjacent layers is small. The total data size can be considerably less than 5 or 6 times that of a single layer representation because only the occluded areas need to be multiple. I can imagine that smart tiling and indexing might yield LDM files only about twice the size of a single-layer pano with depth map.

I look forward to being able to package 6-dof VR experiences with krpano.

Kind regards,
Thomas

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Monday, September 21st 2020, 10:56pm

This is really a great achievement, Klaus, and it’s AMAZING!
I’ll test it soon on one of my projects!
Thanks for your fantastic job!
Cheers,
Hans

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Wednesday, September 23rd 2020, 7:58am

About hotspot child layer issues

Hi,
The layer was created dynamically and is the code below.
If you create it statically, there is no problem.

I would like to investigate a little more with my own hands.
Thank you.

Source code

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     <action name="value_set">
   			addlayer(ruler_value);
    			layer[ruler_value].loadstyle(value-style);
    			set(layer[ruler_value].keep,true);
    			set(layer[ruler_value].parent,hotspot[e_point]);
    			set(layer[ruler_value].align,right);
    			set(layer[ruler_value].edge,left);
    			set(layer[ruler_value].ox, 10);
    			set(layer[ruler_value].autowidth, true);
    			set(layer[ruler_value].autoheight, true);
    			set(layer[ruler_value].html, 500);
    			set(layer[ruler_value].padding, 3 5 3 5);

    		</action>

	<style name="value-style" capture="true"  zorder="99"   keep="true"
       	url="%SWFPATH%/plugins/textfield.swf"
       	visible="true" alpha="1" enabled="true" 
       	background="true" backgroundcolor="0xFFFFFF" backgroundalpha="1" 
       	border="true" bordercolor="0x000000" borderalpha="0.2" borderwidth="1.0" roundedge="5"
       	shadow="0.0" shadowrange="1.0" shadowangle="45" shadowcolor="0x000000" shadowalpha="0.7"
       	textshadow="0" textshadowrange="2.0" textshadowangle="90" textshadowcolor="0x000000" textshadowalpha="0.5"
       	css="text-align:right;  line-height:1.2;   	color:#000000; font-family:MS ゴチック; font-weight:bold; font-size:16px;  "
    	/>