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Thursday, March 7th 2013, 10:35am

easy way to make an app for iPad from virtual tour?

Hi all,
does anybody have some knowledge how to transform virtual tour into the iPad app?
There are several threads about which apps can be used for opening the tour, but this is not very good solution for me, as the client wants to use my tour in many branches on many iPads and it would be complicated for his employees to install some html reader app first and then my tour... (Actually this is not a big problem, but to download it just once, as a "standalone" app would be much more comfortable...)
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Thursday, March 7th 2013, 11:18am

The easiest may is to embed your tour in a ibook.

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Thursday, March 7th 2013, 11:57am

The easiest may is to embed your tour in a ibook.

hmm, but this seems to be what I actually don´t want. I want to make an app from my tour, which can be downloaded directly from apple store then.
I did not test ibook yet, but I expect it is another solution to read html and other content, or?
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Thursday, March 7th 2013, 5:25pm

iBooks can be published in the official iBooks store. It may take some time to get it published though.
The user than needs to Search for it in the iBooks store from the iPad iBooks just like you do from APP store.
You can also publish it from your website as long as it is free but that means you need to load it to the iBook on the iPad through iTunes.

The easiest way is still to use one of the readers that support direct down load of a zipped tour.
The easiest ones are HTML Books and Site-2-Go HD

HTML Books is just $1 and you can install your Tours just by writing the url to you Zip file from the menu.

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Thursday, March 7th 2013, 6:18pm

thanx for the response,
now I was thinking about it more... my tour has 85MB and I think it is quite enough for one app, while at the same time if using safari and online version - only those panoramic data will be downloaded, which user wants to open
and for the offline preview - yes, I am using html books already for one year, I just somehow wanted to "compile" my tour into an app = one file. U know, I can´t ask everybody in that company to download html books first and then download my zip
but perhaps there is no easier solution ...

another question is regarding html books - it doesn´t support more tabs/windows. so if I have some openUrl,_blank links in my tour, when I open it, I can go just back and this will load my tour from the starting point. Any idea, how to manage this? Is there any app, which can handle more then one tab/window and can open krpano virtual tour?
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Friday, March 8th 2013, 3:06pm

I am not quite sure what you mean with open tabs, may be Site-2Go HD has what you want.

After you have opened several tours from your list you can browse through them with forward-previous arrows in the menu.

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Friday, March 8th 2013, 3:09pm

HTML Books also opens the tours from your start by clicking the Home button.

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Friday, March 8th 2013, 3:20pm

I am linking to external website with onclick="openUrl(something,_blank")
Normally, if I open my tour online, in web browser (in iPad this means Safari), when clicking on this link, it opens the website in new tab/window because of "_blank" parameter. However, if I open the tour offline in html books and try to open this link, it opens in the same window, this means when I want to go back, I will get back to the start point of my presentation, and that is not good. I need the solution, which allows user to open the link in new, separate window or tab...
thanx

edit> to understand: I am linking some materials (datasheets, videos), which are online and I want that the user will not lose the connection by closing this separate window, so that he can continue in virtual tour
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Friday, March 8th 2013, 6:08pm

That is not correct. I just checked and when you open another website you automatically get an arrow activated to the right of the Home button. Using that you go back to the panorama you left in the tour.

This is as far as I know not something you can do in an APP. In an App you probably open it in Safari and you have to go back to the desktop and activate the App again or you have to make a special menu button in the App back to the panorama.
In HTML Books you do not need that as the back button appears automatically

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Friday, March 8th 2013, 6:50pm

That is not correct. I just checked and when you open another website you automatically get an arrow activated to the right of the Home button. Using that you go back to the panorama you left in the tour.

This is as far as I know not something you can do in an APP. In an App you probably open it in Safari and you have to go back to the desktop and activate the App again or you have to make a special menu button in the App back to the panorama.
In HTML Books you do not need that as the back button appears automatically

Hans

:) what do U mean by panorama? panorama xml, or scene?
because in my case it will start from the start. however my tour is special :)
I didn´t want to show it, because it is still not finished yet completelly, but ok here you are:
http://www.virtualguide.sk/oms/final/final3/
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This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "igor.socha" (Mar 15th 2013, 11:06am) with the following reason: updated link


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Friday, March 8th 2013, 7:32pm

I can not see why it should not work,
You should return to the same scene by using the back button.

The tour does not work on iPad though as you have an error in the skin. I get fatal error.

I can only find one outgoing link on the OMS logo.

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Friday, March 8th 2013, 7:45pm

I can not see why it should not work,
You should return to the same scene by using the back button.

The tour does not work on iPad though as you have an error in the skin. I get fatal error.

I can only find one outgoing link on the OMS logo.

Hans

some proxy cache problem, the version was updated already before, however changes were not visible, so I changed path to final1, try it again please, it is now working on iPad...

but I tested it again - and like I said, it opens the tour from the start :( I pick some light, some of them have link to an external datasheet or youtube video. if I click on it it opens the website and like U said the back arrow appears. but by clicking on it the tour will load from the start. maybe my code should be written somehow differently to handle this, I don´t know...but better for me would be to have the app with possibility to open the link in separate tab, like in normal browser.
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Friday, March 8th 2013, 9:24pm

Sorry but I can not find any of those links. The link to the Website works exactly as I said.

The interface is extremely confusing especially on iPad.

What is this vertical transparent banner in the center doing. It blocks from seeing everything.

If you want t show a youtube video why do you not make a popup with it.
You can just link the video directly to the tour.

Opening new pages in a new tab is a very bad idea as you can be sure it will accumulate memory use and sooner or later you crash the tour.

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Friday, March 8th 2013, 10:36pm

Sorry but I can not find any of those links. The link to the Website works exactly as I said.

The interface is extremely confusing especially on iPad.

What is this vertical transparent banner in the center doing. It blocks from seeing everything.

If you want t show a youtube video why do you not make a popup with it.
You can just link the video directly to the tour.

Opening new pages in a new tab is a very bad idea as you can be sure it will accumulate memory use and sooner or later you crash the tour.

Hans

what do U mean by vertical transparent banner in the center? Did it load completely? U mean already after "welcome screen", when U already see the showroom?

As for the youtube - I tried to find how to do this, but was not successful. I am missing the .flv file to get linked with + what about crossdomain problems?
I think I better forbid all external links for offline viewing...
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Friday, March 8th 2013, 11:14pm

meanwhile i updated the link, because i found and repaired one bug:
http://www.virtualguide.sk/oms/final/final3/
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Saturday, March 9th 2013, 11:00am

Hi igor, first of all congrat for your work, i find it really amazing

i think that digital Publishing Suite from Adobe is what you are looking for....allows you to design “multimedia brochures” much more flexible than ibook and also much more “device independent ;-) to start with i would download on your ipad from app store “DPS tips” by Bob bringhurst....then open “overlay Basics folio” and goo to “web content” chapter.....there is explained how to insert or embeed html (local or external)...i´ve managed to build a virtual tour structured in pages..each page with it´s own krpano pano embeeded...but can be multinodal also

have a look at it.....and please don´t ask more...i just like to play with different options...and i find DPS a really interesting one

good luck

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Saturday, March 9th 2013, 11:48am

Hi igor, first of all congrat for your work, i find it really amazing

i think that digital Publishing Suite from Adobe is what you are looking for....allows you to design “multimedia brochures” much more flexible than ibook and also much more “device independent ;-) to start with i would download on your ipad from app store “DPS tips” by Bob bringhurst....then open “overlay Basics folio” and goo to “web content” chapter.....there is explained how to insert or embeed html (local or external)...i´ve managed to build a virtual tour structured in pages..each page with it´s own krpano pano embeeded...but can be multinodal also

have a look at it.....and please don´t ask more...i just like to play with different options...and i find DPS a really interesting one

good luck

Hi,
this looks really interesting for me! thanx for bringing this idea. Seems to be not so easy, but I think it is worth to learn to work with it...
Perhaps I´ll try to play with it with next projects.
Thanx again!
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Igor Socha

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Monday, March 11th 2013, 9:32am

Great tip! Thanks, imge *smile*
Do you have an example online (web or appstore)? Would love to take a look at a finished result!

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Monday, March 11th 2013, 10:03am

Hi Nupsi....info must flow i think...i found out that it was possible....i told it .....and no...not public demo...is a work in progress

do it yourself (diy)...is the best way

good luck