drag3d mouse right button

  • Hi,

    a few weeks ago i was experimenting to put the drag3d at the right mouse button.
    As there seems to be no pressed and pressedelement on the rightbutton i came to this.
    I have some question though.

    so..
    This seems to work quite nice


    You can see that working here:
    test

    When you set the capture of the hotspot to false you need to change this (otherwise it behaves strange when you change view values ) :

    <events name="rightmousebutton" keep="true" ondown="if(mouse.rightbutton, Drag3DDown());" onup="Drag3DUp();"  />

    Find that here:
    test

    My question basically is, why does the first example works in the first place on the rightmouse button?
    My brain is a bit cracked *g*

    Obviously you could do something like this quite easily ( i didn't take the effort of making it nice etc.. just tech example):
    test

    You can shift click a model to rotate it and just click it again to remove the rotation helper.

    Tuur*thumbsup*

  • Today i was at my parents place to show my father, former scientist and also very interested in this stuff and still a happy blender user on his 82 years of age, the new 1.22 playground stuff and nice 3d functionality krpano offers these days.
    I found there on a pc, maybe i should rob a bank to also get me one, that my examples here don't work as meant to be.

    Here a video how it works online on a mac (chrome browser ) and how it is meant to be :
    video

    I thought that was clear, but, AGAIN, nobody tells me that there is something wrong with my example?
    Let us all ignore Tuur and let him ROT . Sounds familiar? It really feels like that.
    I better not tell how massively PISSED OFF i am.
    Not about that is is not working, i'm sure this will change in the future, but about nobody cares and quickly jumps in to tell me.
    I invest much time to investigate stuff, share a lot of code and creativity, that, i'm sure, helped and helps a lot of people for more then 10 years.
    I hate everybody just takes takes takes, and not shares, hardly show something or at least is being even a bit collegial..
    GRABBERS!
    Why would i ever share examples again with open source code for you to study on, use , copy paste.
    I don't know, so i probably won't do that anymore... count your hours.
    I'm currently even in a 'state' that i could take everything offline that could be of any help,reference or is opensource... but i'll first have a sleep on that to re-consider. it would save me quite some gigabytes online though..

    I believe in evolution of things by sharing. I'm also used that i get some back for giving/sharing and being polite... but that is an illusion. Let's all just take, that will end the world even more quick.
    I am besides very very pissed off again also very very disappointed, not in krpano/klaus.. but in you.

    btw..
    this example works on mac totally different then on pc as well.
    krpano


    Tuur*thumbsup*

  • Hi Tuur,

    Sorry to hear your down in the dumps. I'm quite sure a lot of people appreciate your examples and time put into creating them. I certainly do. My only conclusion is that for most (and I may be wrong), KRPano is more of a hobby than a source of income these days and that changes the direction of development. I personally love everything related to 360's and tours but unfortunately it's nothing new anymore to entice clients and so it's hard to justify spending hours creating tours or convincing them that they need 3d functionality.

    I've been following KRPano for years and for most followers, in it's current state, I'm guessing it's simply too hard to get their head around.

    Sure there is the handful of developers here that can code and sell addons to the rest of us but I don't think there are many others that could, or have the time to get involved in testing and sharing new ideas. I'm by no means a coder and would struggle to even mention if I thought something was incorrect with your addons as I wouldn't know where to start.

    It's unfortunate that you are now in this pissed off position but please know that there still are people out there that follow your work and new ideas with interest.

    Kind regards,

    Andrew

  • Dear Turr,

    Please don't get mad. The ecological status of krpano cannot be changed in the short term.


    For most developers, krpano is not a career, or a primary job. As a result, developers spend most of their time working or studying. Sharing knowledge or resolving issues in a forum is a matter of personal preference at the time.
    Personally, although I've gained more knowledge over time, I don't have the passion to make plugins anymore. I think other former krpano plugin developers are similar. But seeing YOU active in the FORUM makes me feel familiar and warm here. Please don't doubt yourself.*thumbsup*

    Here's how I can help:
    When you run into this problem, from a developer's perspective, the first thing you should think about is how to add the right mouse click event to hotspot.
    Note: Do not set capture=false for hotspot.

  • Tuur,

    Please don't stop! Even though I have done KRPano for a living over the course of the last 10 years, I could not even yet call myself a rank amateur.....but one of the best things that ever came my way on this forum is your "Toolbox." Man, I'll tell you....that single act of generosity on your part is rivaled only by the dogged pursuit of continued excellence by Klaus in making improvements to KRPano itself.

    Increasingly, my biggest selling point when cold calling potential clients is that the KRPano viewer is THE ultimate platform for combining and delivering any and all multimedia types for viewing on any device. I'm convinced that this approach will continue to gain sway!

    I'm not ashamed to say that I have never owned a piece of apple technology....and I don't always visit this forum regularly to see all of your clever innovations, but the things that you experiment with are so interesting and instructional... even when viewed on a PC. I suspect that many members of this forum have held back on providing what to you would be valuable feedback regarding glitches on PCs, because they feel like they don't wish to reproach you.

    I think I may be speaking for many when I say that you are so far advanced in this.....that my eyes glaze over when trying to understand the innovations you are seemingly able turn out "on a dime."

    I hope I am again speaking for the many when I say that most of us remember what we saw....and who created it...and we intend to get back to it just as soon as our level of competence allows us to seize the day on things that you have demonstrated.....for FREE...in this awesome open source environment. I'm buying you a beer today. Look for it on paypal! Cheers, Reggie

  • Tuur,
    You are very creative and interesting! Unfortunately, there is no such person around me. If I could meet them, it would be great to chat. Unfortunately, my skills are too limited, and most of them are simply incomprehensible. But the toolbox has been very helpful to me, and I have also purchased your showroom interactive plugin, which is fantastic! If you create new interactive plugins, I will still purchase them.

  • Hi,

    thanks for your kind words!

    No, of course i don't stop.. Too addicted, to much interesting stuff to investigate, to share, to keep *wink* etc etc.. Working on some little projects to show.. but that will take some time.. too many ideas.
    i just really hate that some people don't just ping to say it doesn't work or that they don't understand or what ever. I think the video makes it very clear.
    I also think we all want to evolve, learn, grab, take, give and share... and go on. Make money with clients because you 'dig tha shit' instead of grabbing pennies for some mainstream functionality plugin.. or tool or what ever. There is so much to do.. modeling, flat & 360 photography, coding, UX, UI, design etc etc

    I also think that, financially, with plugins making, selling, maintaining is most often hardly interesting.. if you count the hassle hours. I also think that some basic/mainstream functionality should be shared and not be sold as a plugin by thirth parties.

    So.. sorry for being majorly grumpy.. i took a day off-ish.. helped someone in the morning though.

    Eric Chen i'm not sure if that solves the problem, i actually think we are on a slightly different page here.. but let me first investigate and try your kindly provided suggestion.

    Reggie hehe.. yes.. i think i received it.. i replied on he email that was provided with. the donation. Thanks again! I'll spend it wisely.

    Back to work.. tomorrow.
    Tuur*thumbsup*

  • Hi,

    sorry, I didn't noticed too that 'holding-right-mouse-button controls' didn't work on Mac...

    For some reason I had always automatically used the middle-mouse-button instead of the right-mouse-button when testing on Mac... (maybe because the depthmap_navigation.xml worked for both buttons).

    The actual problem was that Mac systems are sending a context-menu event when 'pressing' the right-mouse-button event, where on Windows systems, the context-menu event was sent when 'releasing' the right-mouse-button. A krpano used that context-menu event to clear/release all currently pressed buttons and keys.

    This will be fixed in version 1.22.3.

    Best regards,
    Klaus

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